Thursday, 2 September 2010

Turkey urges Greece to drop claims to Greece



‘It’s quite simple, Dimitris, if you stop claiming Greece is Greek, if you surrender the Aegean to us, then we won’t go to war with you and take your territory by force. Can’t you see this hang up you have with sovereignty is out of date and your interests are best served if you recognise the power and authority of Turkey? Resistance is futile. Please see reason. If you become subservient to us, then there will be no limits to the friendship we can build between Turkey and the Rum millet.’

This is essentially what Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu said would prompt Turkey to remove Turkey's casus belli against Greece. Read this for confirmation.

And all this at the same time as the saccharine expressions of goodwill from Davutoglu and Greek foreign minister Dimitris Droutsas (see video above), made at the Greece v Turkey group game at the World Basketball Championships currently being held in Turkey, which, unfortunately, Greece lost 65-76, last Tuesday – it would be Tuesday. Typically, although the Turks played well, Greece has a better team and only went down because of mistakes and self-inflicted wounds.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

The potential for war in that region in the next decade can be described as a silent DISASTER in the making. War is going to come

John Akritas said...

I agree. I don't see how Turkey can realise its ambitions without 'neutralising' Greece and Cyprus. What Turkey is trying to do at the moment is soften Greece up – hopefully, to accept, peacefully, Turkish hegemony, but if not then to get this done through force of arms, though I don't think this necessarily entails a full-scale war; just a few incidents here and there to prove to Greece that resistance is futile.

M.Pandeli said...

What a mess - supposed grown up politicians behaving like school children in the play ground. The bully may seem to be winning but bullying attracts no prizes in a civilised world or in a well ordered playground! The bully might even be expelled from civil company. The Turks and even the Greeks would benefit from reflecting on the wise old Delphic exhortation to "know thy self" before starting to play war games

John Akritas said...

It's true, M, Turkey is trying to bully Greece into surrendering sovereignty in the Aegean and is up to all sorts of tricks in Thrace in an effort to dilute Greek sovereignty there too. Of course, the appalling thing is that Greece is allowing itself to be bullied – which only encourages Turkey further. Of course, all this stems from Greece's (long-term) catastrophic Cyprus policy, which has virtually handed the island to Turkey on a plate.

Hermes said...

An extremely wise Prussian soldier once said (one of my favourite thinkers), "The fact that slaughter is a horrifying spectacle must make us take war more seriously, but not provide an excuse for gradually blunting our swords in the name of humanity. Sooner or later someone will come along with a sharp sword and hack off our arms".

If only the Greek elite still read these texts the commentators of such writers such as Kondylis.

Turkey is gradually grinding Greece and Cyprus into some sort of grand settlement where we will trade a (temporary) peace for more sovereignty.

Anonymous said...

When this story first broke some days back I thought that I had misread the news article. Surely a request like what the Turks have put across couldn't have been made. It's so ludicrous I thought.

How wrong I was.

Apostolos

Hermes said...

A great article by a good scholar of international relations. The article is about the Finlandisation of Greece.

http://www.strategyreport.gr/?p=3776

John Akritas said...

It is sobering, Ap. that the Turks can, on the one hand, so overtly challenge Greek sovereignty – speak so brazenly about 'sharing' the Aegean, maintain the casus belli – while, on the other hand, assert, without any hint of irony, that they want 'friendship' with Greece; and it's shocking that Greece's foreign policy seems to want to believe that the 'real' Turkey is the one that wants 'friendship' not the one that wants half the Aegean.

Finlandisation is a perfect description of Greek foreign policy vis a vis Turkey. And the tragedy is that the casus belli is a bluff. I reckon it's unlikely that the Turks would launch a full-frontal assault on Greece if Greece extended its territorial water to 12 miles – it's the tension and mikro episodia that will likely follow the Greek elite can't face up to.

John Akritas said...

This article in today's Ethnos suggests that Turkey's intention regarding Greek territorial water and the EEZ is to simply ignore Greek sovereignty, pretend it doesn't exist, given that Greece is not prepared to asset or defend it. The article suggests that Greece's policy in this instance is based on a mixture of indifference/incompetence and fear of Turkey.

http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?catid=11378&subid=2&pubid=28266948

Hermes said...

Yiannis Kartalis is almost definitely paid by non-Greek powers to write these idiotic articles:

http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2&ct=6&artId=352482&dt=05/09/2010#ixzz0yhAAIpt3

Anonymous said...

You may find this unbelievable but not everyone who has what appears to be a Greek name is in fact ethnic Greek.
Plenty of ethnic Greeks have adopted English names (first and surnames) to blend in the USA.
I've also come across Skopjians with common Greek surnames but are not ethnic Greek and are vehemently against anything that is Greek.
Kartalis could be anything but ethnic Greek.
Remember our enemies internally and externally are smiling and jumping for joy due to our economic crisis. A crisis that I consider just as bad as if Greece were at war...the same economic devastation.